prince harry he did not believe his mother Princess Diana she was dead for years, believing it was “all part of a plan” to disappear, and that she would eventually ask him and his brother, Prince William, to join her.
Harry told Anderson Cooper in a 60 minutes interview on Sunday that saw images of Diana, killed in the car in the Pont d’Alma tunnel in Paris. Harry also revealed why he thought his stepmother, Queen Consort Camilla, was “dangerous” as she “left bodies in the street” during her rise within the royal family and through her alleged connections with the British press.
It was the second major interview Harry had given on the Sunday before the Publication in English of his memoirs, Replacement. Like the first interview with British broadcaster ITV, this one was full of startling revelations.
In the memoirs, Harry writes of his stepmother Camilla campaigning in the British press to be accepted after Diana’s death: “She even wanted Camilla to be happy. She maybe she would be less dangerous if she was happy ”.
“She was the villain. She was the third person in her marriage. She needed to rehabilitate the image of her,” Harry told Cooper about Camilla’s position after Diana’s death.
“With a family built on hierarchy, and with her, on her way to being Queen Consort, there were going to be people or bodies left on the street because of it.”
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Asked by Cooper how Camilla was dangerous, Harry replied: “Out of the need for her to rehabilitate her image,” which made her dangerous “because of the connections she was forging within the British press.” And there was an open will on both sides to exchange information. And with a family built on the hierarchy, and with her, on her way to being Queen Consort, there were going to be people or bodies left on the street because of that…
“If you are led to believe, as a family member, that being on the front page, having positive headlines, positive stories written about you, will improve your reputation or increase your chances of being accepted as a monarch by the British public, then that is what it is. what are you going to do”.
Both Harry and William asked Charles not to marry Camilla, Harry told Cooper. “We didn’t think it was necessary. We thought it was going to cause more harm than good and if she was with his person now, that—surely that’s enough. Why go that far when you don’t necessarily have to? We wanted him to be happy. And we saw how happy he was with her. So at that point, she was, ‘OK.’”
“For a long, long time, I just refused to accept that she…was gone,” Harry said of his mother, Diana. “Um, part of, you know, she’d never do this to us, but also part of, maybe this is all part of a plan.”
Harry thought that “she would call us and we would go and meet her, yes.”
How long did you believe that? Cooper asked.
“Years. Many, many years. And William and I talked about it too. I had…I had, um, similar thoughts.
Harry said he had “huge hopes” that Diana was alive.
Finally, they showed him photographs of her body, “proof that she was in the car. Proof that she was hurt. And proof that the same paparazzi who chased her down the tunnel were the ones taking pictures of her, pictures of her lying half dead in the back seat of the car.
“I was not aware at that moment that I was living my life in adrenaline, and that was the case since I was 12 years old, from the moment they told me that my mother had died.”
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“All I saw was the back of my mother’s head, slumped in the back seat. There were other, more gruesome photographs, but I am forever grateful to (her private secretary of hers) for denying me the ability to inflict pain upon seeing that. Because that’s the kind of thing that stays in your mind forever.”
He and William had considered reopening the investigation into her death. “Because there were so many gaps and so many holes in it. Which just didn’t add up and didn’t make sense.”
Harry still doesn’t think he knows the whole truth. And I don’t think my brother does either. I don’t think the world does. Um, do I need anything more than what I already know? No. I don’t think it will change much.”
Being a soldier “I felt like I was turning pain into purpose. I was not aware at that moment that I was living my life in adrenaline, and that was the case since I was 12 years old, from the moment they told me that my mother had died.
Harry said he had retained “a great deal of frustration and guilt” towards the British press for their part in what had happened to his mother.
in the wide 60 minutes interview, Harry also revealed that he had used psychedelics to help deal with his pain.
“Ayahuasca, psilocybin, mushrooms. They were actually important to you,” Cooper said.
“I would never recommend people do this recreationally,” Harry said. “But doing it with the right people, if you’re dealing with a great deal of loss or grief or trauma, then these things have a way of working as medicine… For me, they wiped the windshield, the windshield, the misery of loss. .. They took away that idea that I had in my head that—that my mother—that I needed to cry to show my mother that I missed her. When in reality, all she wanted was for me to be happy.”
“I spent some time alone with her… I was in her bedroom. He was actually… he was very happy for her. Because she was done with life. She had completed life, and her husband was–was waiting for her.”
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Harry also said he had not been invited on the plane that would take the other royals to the north of Scotland on the day Queen Elizabeth died at Balmoral.
“I asked my brother, I said: ‘What are your plans? How are you and Kate getting up there? And then a couple of hours later, all the family members who live in the Windsor and Ascot area were jumping on a plane together,” Harry said. “A plane with 12, 14, maybe 16 seats.”
“Weren’t you invited on that plane?” Cooper asked Harry.
“I wasn’t invited,” Harry replied.
Harry told Cooper that he arrived at Balmoral, where he was greeted by Princess Anne. He wondered if it was “a good idea” to see his grandmother’s dead body. “And I was like, ‘You know what? You can… you can do this. You… have to say goodbye. Um, so I went upstairs, took off my jacket, went inside and spent some time alone with her… I was in her room. He was actually… he was very happy for her. Because she was done with life. She had completed life, and her husband was–was waiting for her. And the two are buried together.”
Despite the physical altercations he details in Replacement, the arguments and briefings he claims have been made against him, and all the stories he tells that show his older brother in a bad light, Harry told Cooper that he loved William “deeply”. There has been a lot of pain between the two of us, especially in the last six years. Um- Nothing I’ve written, nothing I’ve included is intended to hurt my family. But it gives the full picture of the situation as we were growing up, and it also squashes this idea that somehow my wife was the one who destroyed the relationship between these two brothers… We had a very similar traumatic experience, and then she dealt with it two very different ways.
Harry told Cooper that he was not talking or texting with William. “But I hope… I hope we can find peace.” He also hasn’t spoken “for a while” with King Charles.
Harry spoke of the initial media reaction to Meghan Markle. “The fact that she was American, an actress, divorced, black, biracial with a black mother. Those were just four of the typical stereotypes that become a feeding frenzy for the British press.”
“I am very glad to have changed. Because instead of getting drunk, going out of clubs, or taking drugs, I had now found the love of my life and now had the chance to start a family with her.”
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This was reflected within the royal family, he added. “My family reads the tabloids, you know? It is arranged: at breakfast when everyone gathers. So whether you walk around saying you believe it or not, it’s still… it’s still leaving an imprint on your mind. So if you have that judgment based on a stereotype early on, it’s very, very hard to get over it. And a big part of it for the family, but also for the British press and a lot of other people is like, ‘He’s changed. She must be a witch. She has changed. Unlike yes, I changed, and I’m very glad I changed. Because instead of getting drunk, going out of clubs or taking drugs, now I had found the love of my life and now I had the opportunity to start a family with her.
“The thing that terrifies me the most is history repeating itself,” Harry told Cooper. “I was very afraid that the end result, the fact that I lost my mother when I was 12, could easily happen again to my wife.”
“There comes a point where silence is betrayal,” Harry said of the palace’s lack of comment when it came to Jeremy Clarkson. Sun column imagining Meghan being thrown with excrement. Harry denounced “a tabloid outlet that literally radicalizes its readers and then potentially harms my family, my wife, my children.”
Harry told Cooper that he couldn’t see himself returning as a full-time member of the royal family.
“No. I can’t see that happening,” Harry told Cooper.
“The ball is in their (the royal family’s) court, but Meghan and I keep saying we’ll openly apologize for anything we’ve done wrong, but every time we ask that question, no one tells us the details or anything. There has to be a constructive conversation, one that can happen in private and not leak out.”
“At the heart of this, there is a family, without a doubt. I really want to bring back that family element.”
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Cooper responded, “Well, how can we trust you? How do we know you’re not going to reveal the conversations we have in an interview somewhere?”
Harry responded: “This all started with them reporting, on a daily basis, against my wife with lies to the point that my wife and I had to flee our… my country.”
When Cooper compared the situation to “game of Thrones no dragons,” said Harry, who didn’t watch the show, “but there are definitely dragons. And that’s again the third one which is the British press, so ultimately without the British press being part of this, we’d probably still be quite a dysfunctional family, as many are. But at the heart of this, there is a family, without a doubt. I really want to bring back that family element. I hope to have a relationship with my brother. I hope to have a relationship with my father and other members of my family.”